Back on February 19, I wrote a post about a truly hate filled site that tries to denigrate the men and women of the United States military in ways that should bring a RCOB moment to anyone that truly loves this country. I spoke my piece and urged everyone to protest the supporters of this site as the hatemongers that they are.
Then while checking my e-mail today, I saw that a reader named Milo had commented on that post. Here's what Milo had to say:
The information at http://www.forsakethetroops.info/ is information we should know. Admitedly the writer is angry and upset but what can people expect when the election is stolen from them to proceed with an illegal war.Posted by milo at April 26, 2005 07:24 PM
I debated whether or not to let the link stand, as I didn't want to give these idiotic hatemongers any traffic, but then I realized that, yes, I DO want as many of my readers to see the tripe that is being spewed there, and hopefully, protest it vehemently for the Anti-American garbage it is. Mikey "the" crook is screaming for attention again.
As I wrote in my first post:
"...Luckily, my nephew over at the Slaughterhouse could and did write a reasoned post. Go there, read what he wrote and follow your own consciounce(sic). I agree wholeheartedly with Slaglerock.
There are times when free speech just becomes an expression of unreasoned hate, and should be exposed to the world to see, and to provoke a response against it. The ONLY difference between he and I is that I WILL call the site owners scumbags, for that term describes them perfectly."
The time has come again to defend what we belive in, and defend the defenders as well.
And Milo? the election is over, your side lost, get over it. All the fevered imaginings of Neo-con plots that your ilk have tried to put up have been debunked time and again, and it's not worth my effort to do it yet again; the fact is that in a Republic, sometimes your side loses, DEAL WITH IT.
As far as Iraq being an "illegal war"; thats just Progressive tripe. There is plenty of international law to back it up, including the UN's own resolutions. That the UN didn't have the balls to back up their threat, doesn't make the operation illegal. In fact, it could be argued that Operation Sandbox ll™ is merely a continuation of our first altercation. We gave Saddam 12 years to comply with the terms of the cease fire of that operation, and he chose not to, and in the light of the events of 9/11, it was incumbant upon us to not allow any furthur delay against our national security interests.
update: On the directory page of this piece of trash site, they have the following notice concerning their comment section:
"Because of the ignorant actions of a few, who can't express their opinions without obscenity, insults, and disrespect, the message board requires that you register to read or post. Also, the guestbook is now moderated. Amazingly, no one is trying to voice their opinion. It's surprising what happens when anonymity is taken away. Peoples' balls fall off. There's free speech, folks, but only to a limit, and it has been abused..we have been abused. Disagree with us, fine, but do it with respect and couth."
I posted an e-mail, using my name and addy, disagreeing with their point of view, with no invective, but a few pithy observations and this was the response I received:
"FTT/CATT"
To: "Bert Meyer"
Subject: Re: FTT E-mail
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:39:20 -0400
Would that friend be your butt buddy, Ernie?
Go back to Sesame Street...Bert!
Fucking military loving puke.
Notice that the site owner can't be bothered to comply with what he wishes his respondant's to do.... I guess this shows the outcome of "self-esteem" based education. Mikey never learned that respect isn't given, it's earned.
I sincerly hope that his parents tire of his failure to pull his own weight and kick him out of their basement soon. The shock of attempting to live in the real world just may do Mikey some good.
Point well made, thanks Bert.
Posted by: Jack at April 27, 2005 05:52 AMAs they say, "you hit the nail on the head." Too bad it wasn't the collective head of those who write the filth and those who support it.
SlagleRock Out!
Posted by: SlagleRock at April 27, 2005 06:31 AMI haven't visited the site and I'm not sure I want to. Even though there are many issues on which we disagree, I do believe your an honest man. If you say this site is dispicable I feel confident it probably is.
To blame the soldiers serving in Iraq for the loss of the election or even for their being there is just ridiculous and outrageous.
As far as "the election is over, your side lost, get over it...". Well that's a horse of a different color. IF your side ever looses another election you will understand this. I say "IF" because I too believe our election process is broken. When a company that has contributed heavily to a particular party, Is the very company that supplies the (no paper trail) voting machines to the very states who's votes decide the winner of an election. You can see where some people might question the honesty and validity of the process.
I suspect "IF" a democrat should win in 08 (especially if God forbid it be a Clinton) you will hear the same cries of 'foul' from the republicans. At which time dem's will reply with, "the election is over, your side lost, get over it". It won't be any less right then than now.
Okay, I checked the site out. Dispicable doesn't begin to describe what I felt when I started reading. Scumbags is too kind. There have to be stronger more appropriate words. This is a prime example of the downside to free speech.
Posted by: wanda at April 27, 2005 09:06 PMWanda, I'm sure that you weren't too concerned when the Democrats held power for over 60 years..and with plenty of EVIDENCE of voter fraud, not just conspiracy conjecture.
It's not a mistake that in some parts of Illinois, it's a given that the dead vote more regularly after taking up residence in the Skull Orchard than when they were actively respiring. After all, they have nothing else to do, and the Daly machine operatives are aggressively assisting to make sure that "their voices are heard" from the Great Beyond.
I do agree that there should always be some sort of paper trail, to forstall the conspiracy theorists from spouting their meme's, if for nothing else. If the American public ever truly does lose their faith in the fairness of the election process, this country will descend into anarchy.
I find it pretty amusing that it's always been a Democrat to push this lack of faith in the process to the utmost extreme. The Republicans have only dominated in the last three elections, but in the sixty years prior, no Republican put the nation through recount after recount agony in a closely contested race.
There was great evidence in the Nixon/Kennedy contest that there was a great deal of voter fraud that could have changed the results of the race, should Nixon have been willing to put the country through the uncertainty and shake the public confidence. Instead, Nixon congratulated the new President and began planning his next foray in the political arena. Love him or hate him, at least you can respect him for that.
Posted by: delftsman3 at April 27, 2005 09:38 PMThere's your Party of Tolerance™, folks.
Posted by: TripleNeckSteel at April 28, 2005 11:13 AM